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	<title>Comments on: STUDENTS</title>
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	<description>Creative thinking and critique from Dave Trott</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Scamp hosts blog to Dave Trott &#171; the story of oz</title>
		<link>http://www.cstadvertising.com/blog/2008/06/students/#comment-8752</link>
		<dc:creator>Scamp hosts blog to Dave Trott &#171; the story of oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 04:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Here you will also find Dave&#8217;s reaction to the Q&amp;A session. It didn&#8217;t go down too well with student advertisers when Dave said they were waste of space, he justifies his point avidly&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Here you will also find Dave&#8217;s reaction to the Q&amp;A session. It didn&#8217;t go down too well with student advertisers when Dave said they were waste of space, he justifies his point avidly&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.cstadvertising.com/blog/2008/06/students/#comment-8751</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admire your clear definitive although the simple truth is, not all of us are destined to become who we hope we might be, for a whole host of reasons. Some of those reasons are beyond one's own control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admire your clear definitive although the simple truth is, not all of us are destined to become who we hope we might be, for a whole host of reasons. Some of those reasons are beyond one&#8217;s own control.</p>
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		<title>By: Borat</title>
		<link>http://www.cstadvertising.com/blog/2008/06/students/#comment-8750</link>
		<dc:creator>Borat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dave,
'Tis me your old chum, just wanted to say that i do actually agree with your point, I think you didn't make it clear what you actually meant during the live chat.
Have a lovely weekend
x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dave,<br />
&#8216;Tis me your old chum, just wanted to say that i do actually agree with your point, I think you didn&#8217;t make it clear what you actually meant during the live chat.<br />
Have a lovely weekend<br />
x</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Trott</title>
		<link>http://www.cstadvertising.com/blog/2008/06/students/#comment-8748</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Trott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam and Andy, I think the difference is that when you're a student your work is guaranteed attention, From your lecturers and classmates. So you want to stand out in a crit as better.
When  you're a professional, there is no crit.
There is no guaranteed attention.
The whole job is about getting noticed and remembered.
Then you have to work out what makes you different, and why anyone should buy you.
Exactly the same as it's going to be for the rest of your life in advertising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam and Andy, I think the difference is that when you&#8217;re a student your work is guaranteed attention, From your lecturers and classmates. So you want to stand out in a crit as better.<br />
When  you&#8217;re a professional, there is no crit.<br />
There is no guaranteed attention.<br />
The whole job is about getting noticed and remembered.<br />
Then you have to work out what makes you different, and why anyone should buy you.<br />
Exactly the same as it&#8217;s going to be for the rest of your life in advertising.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Peel</title>
		<link>http://www.cstadvertising.com/blog/2008/06/students/#comment-8747</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Peel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont like being called a student, they waste time effort and money being pointless, as a 2nd year im graduating this year, a year early and with 2 placements under my belt, im not great, i just work hard, the sooner students realise working gets you noticed the sooner i'll need plan b up my sleeve.

Im still 98% shit though</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont like being called a student, they waste time effort and money being pointless, as a 2nd year im graduating this year, a year early and with 2 placements under my belt, im not great, i just work hard, the sooner students realise working gets you noticed the sooner i&#8217;ll need plan b up my sleeve.</p>
<p>Im still 98% shit though</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Richardson</title>
		<link>http://www.cstadvertising.com/blog/2008/06/students/#comment-8746</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read all the comments on the live day and that really sums up what many peoples thoughts seem to be.  As a 'graduate' myself looking for a first job, I have been on placements at different agencies for 12 months now.  It was only after about 5 months I think that I changed from student to art director.

Maybe the ad courses need a reality check, when your at uni and are given a open brief and told you have to crack it in three weeks it's easy to understand why lazy people are churned out every year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read all the comments on the live day and that really sums up what many peoples thoughts seem to be.  As a &#8216;graduate&#8217; myself looking for a first job, I have been on placements at different agencies for 12 months now.  It was only after about 5 months I think that I changed from student to art director.</p>
<p>Maybe the ad courses need a reality check, when your at uni and are given a open brief and told you have to crack it in three weeks it&#8217;s easy to understand why lazy people are churned out every year.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Trott</title>
		<link>http://www.cstadvertising.com/blog/2008/06/students/#comment-8745</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Trott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite right Gary. That's why all the Man Utd fans are anywhere but oop north.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite right Gary. That&#8217;s why all the Man Utd fans are anywhere but oop north.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary. AMV</title>
		<link>http://www.cstadvertising.com/blog/2008/06/students/#comment-8744</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary. AMV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or "Southerners"?

...I remember you telling me once that you liked employing "Northerners", because "They come down here and work really hard. It's because they know that if they don't work hard they'll get fired and have to go back up north...and they don't want to do that now do they?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or &#8220;Southerners&#8221;?</p>
<p>&#8230;I remember you telling me once that you liked employing &#8220;Northerners&#8221;, because &#8220;They come down here and work really hard. It&#8217;s because they know that if they don&#8217;t work hard they&#8217;ll get fired and have to go back up north&#8230;and they don&#8217;t want to do that now do they?&#8221;</p>
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